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Record #27653

Name :: : Ellen SCALES (1899 - )
aka : Nellie SCALES
aka : Ellen MUNNS
aka : Nellie MUNNS
Father: : see notes below
Mother: : Annie Scales

BMD and other details

Date of Birth: : 5 Jun 1899 Notes : GRO registered 3rd Qtr 1899 - MacPherson's give birth as 05 July 1899
Marriage (1): : 2 Jul 1918 Spouse/Notes : married Arthur Edward Koch in Perth - gives parents as George Scales and Annie Munns
Marriage (2): :
Date of Death: :

Abode (1) : Place of BirthEngland, Middlesex, Edmonton, Enfield

4 Boundary Cottages, Enfield

Abode (2) : Place of Death / Burial

Sailing Information

Date of Arrival: : 29 Jul 1910 Notes : ship left Liverpool 22 Jul 1910
Country: : Canada
Ship: : Virginian
Placement Family: : 1911 -Walker Family in Willmott, Ontario

Homes / Agencys

Institution (GB): : Annie MacPherson House of Industry
Agency: : Annie MacPherson

NotesScales / Munns Family Summary – four children emigrated as BHC – Charles, Ellen (Nellie), Elizabeth (Lizzie) and Harry
The children are listed under both surnames in various records

1881 Census - 2 Boundary Cottages, Enfield – George Munns age 30 (farm labourer) with wife Elizabeth age 41 (Crape Worker) and daughter Florence age 1

1888 Nov 12 birth James Scales 21 Stanley Street, Ponders End, Enfield, Edmonton, Middlesex - mother Annie, agricultural labourer – registered GRO Dec Qtr Edmonton - no father listed

1891 Census – 5 Boundary Cottages, Enfield – George Munns age 39 – widower (farm labourer) with children Florence age 10, George age 8
1891 Census – Chase Farm School, Enfield, Edmonton – James Scales age 3
1891 April 05 census Annie Scales (single) and daughter Lilian May in Edmonton Workhouse

1901 Census – 4 Boundary Cottages, Ponders End, Enfield – all people in household were born at this location: George Munns age 45 (farm labourer), Annie Munns age 38, George age 18, James age 13, Lily age 11, Ada age 7, Lizzie age 4 and Ellen age 1.

1910 July 15 – medical performed 4 Torres Street Hackney on children going to the Annie MacPherson House of Industry, 29 Bethnall Green East – Ellen, Elizabeth and Charles Scales
1910 July 22 – ship “Virginian” left Liverpool – list of immigrant children from the Annie MacPherson House of Industry, 29 Bethnall Green East going to 51 Avon Street, Stratford, Ontario include Charles, Elizabeth and Ellen Scales.
1910 July 29 – ship “Virginian” arrives Quebec

1911 census (I have added their birth information to the census information)
St. James Terrace, Enfield *note that Annie Scales reports children that have already emigrated to Canada and one child that has died (she reports Freddy and then crosses out his name and information). She also lists herself as single and crosses it out and puts widow.
In the household are:
b 1871 Annie age 40 single/widow b Edmonton Workhouse – says had 10 children and 9 are living
b 1888 Lily age 22 single Farm Hand b Edmonton Workhouse GRO 4th Qtr 1888 no father listed
b 1893 Freddy b Goat Lane, Ponders End age 17 single *notation in “children who have died” column GRO 3rd Qtr 1893 d 3rd Qtr 1893 no father listed
b 1895 Ada age 16 b Ponders End single Factory Hand b Ponders End GRO 1st Qtr 1895 no father listed
b 1897 Lizzie age 14 b Boundary Cottages, Ponders End MacPherson record 11 Sept 1897 GRO Reference: 1896 4th Qtr in Edmonton – Elizabeth Munns fa: Munns ma: Scales
b 1899 Nelly age 12 b Boundary Cottages, Ponders End GRO 05 June 1899 4 Boundary Cottages – mother Annie, agricultural worker - registered 3rd Qtr 1899 no father listed - MacPherson record 05 July 1899
b 1901 Charlie age 10 b Boundary Cottages, Ponders End GRO 07 Sept 1901 4 Boundary Cottages – mother Annie, agricultural worker registered 4th Qtr 1901 no father listed - MacPherson record 06 February 1901
b 1903 Harry age 7 b Boundary Cottages, Ponders End GRO 17 November 1903 4 Boundary Cottages – mother Annie, agricultural worker registered 1st Qtr 1904 no father listed - Salvation Army record 17 November 1903
b 1907 Arthur age b Picketts Lane, Edmonton 4 GRO 3rd Qtr 1907 no father listed
b 1909 Florrie age 2 b Bricky Lane, Enfield GRO 1st Qtr 1909 no father listed
b 1910 May age 9 months b Vine Cottages, Enfield GRO 3rd Qtr 1910 no father listed

1911 census Chase Farm Schools, Edmonton – Harry Scales *Note on file *alias Munns age 8 born Edmonton

1911 census Sutherland Road, Lower Edmonton, Middlesex – George Munns living with his daughter Florence Rich nee Munns / Scales and her family

1911 census Egremont, Grey South, Ontario – Charles Scales age 10 (domestic) living with Wm Ecoles
1911 census Dunneville, Ontario – Elizabeth Scales (domestic) age 14 living with Fry family
1911 census Wilmott, Ontario – Ellen Scales age 10 (servant) living with Walker family

Harry Scales
1914 June 26 Medical performed for Salvation Army on Harry Scales at the Edmonton Union Workhouse, Middlesex
1914 June 26 – ship “Empress of Britain” leaves Liverpool with group of Salvation Army children – Harry Scales age 10
1914 July 03 – arrived Quebec on the “Empress of Britain” going to 105 Indian Road, Toronto with the Salvation Army

Other Information

1918 July 02 “Helen” Scales age 18 b Enfield marries Arthur Edward Koch in Perth, Ontario – she gives her parents as George Scales and Annie Munns – can’t find her death- appears that her husband was married to Margaret Scobie when he dies

1925 Harry and Charles Scales border crossing
1925 November 24 Border Crossing – Canada to USA
Harry and Charles Scales are traveling together – they are going to Buffalo to visit their sister “Lizzie Burns”
Harry gives his age as 20, living in Durham, Ontario - birth place: Middlesex, England – arrived at Quebec, Canada on the “Empress of Britain” in July 1914 – he is accompanied by his brother Charles
Charles gives his age as 22, living in Holstein, Ontario – birth place: Enfield, England – arrived at “unknown” Canada on the “Virginian” in 1913 – he is accompanied by his brother Harry
I believe these are the Scales children that came to Canada as BHC

ContributorsCreated : 2017-12-22 17:36:58 / janismccahill

Additional Contributions from : 1Millin

Last Updated : 2022-01-09 22:31:19 / janismccahill

Family History ResearchersRootsChatters with family connections to Ellen SCALES:

1Millin

Readers Comments09.01.22 1Millin

:
Ellen was placed with the Wilker family not Walker
William Conrad Wilker and Emma Maria Diehl

Surnames starting with: A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z 4 Entries

ID	Name	DOB	Place of birth	Arrivals & Ships	Dest.	Agency	Family links
15487	MUNNS, William	1896	ENG,	May 1907 : Victorian	CAN	Liverpool Sheltering Home
27654	SCALES, Elizabeth	1896	ENG, MDX, Edmonton, Enfield	Jul 1910 : Virginian	CAN	Annie MacPherson
27653	SCALES, Ellen	1899	ENG, MDX, Edmonton, Enfield	Jul 1910 : Virginian	CAN	Annie MacPherson	1Millin
27652	SCALES, Harry	1903	ENG, MDX, Edmonton, Enfield	Jul 1914 : Empress of Britain	CAN	Salvation Army	1Millin

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