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Record #3957
Name :
: James PAYNE (1908 - 1990)


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Date of Birth
: 11 Sep 1908

Marriage (1)
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Marriage (2)
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Date of Death
: 24 Oct 1990   Notes : Cancer
Abode (1) : Place of BirthEngland, Cheshire, Birkenhead
Abode (2) : Place of Death / BurialNew Zealand, Nelson
Sailing Information
Date of Arrival
: 8 Aug 1926
Country
: Australia

Ship
: Pakeha

Placement Family
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Homes / Agencys
Institution (GB)
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Agency
: Dreadnought Scheme
NotesHis son, James Edward Payne, tells (from {website}ourpedigrees.shampayne.org.nz/p1.htm#i1):

James Payne was born on 11 September 1908 at 28 Patten Street in Birkenhead, CHS, ENG. (Birkenhead Registration District 1908 Dec Qtr 8a 421). He lived in Birkenhead, CHS, ENG, after 1908. He was the son of James Payne and Margaret Copeland.

On 27 May 1926 James Payne emigrated from Liverpool, England on the Pakeha with ?20 and a case of clothes. arriving at Sydney, NSW, AUS, on 17 July 1926 (He went out under the Dreadnought Scheme, one of the juvenile emigration schemes of that time. They were meant to go out on the EURIPIDES, but when it caught fire they were switched to the Shaw Saville and Albion ship the PAKEHA on which wooden cabins had been built for their accommodation. It appears that there were also other young boys as part of the Big Brother Scheme on the ship as well. The PAKEHA called in at Cape Town for coal, Albany (Freemantle), Adelaide, Melbourne finally arriving in Sydney. Dad said that they arrived in Sydney on 8 August 1926 but this wouldn't tie into the date he commenced at Grafton).

From Sydney he was sent up north to the Grafton Experimental Farm situated on the Clarence River. He stayed there for three months and he was taught how to milk. When this training was finished he was put on a farm near Brisbane. While he was there he got a poisoned left foot and spent Christmas and New Year in hospital. He remembered hearing one of the nurses calling to another nurse, "Have you seen this young Englishman? He's got the most beautiful complexion!"

After he had been released from hospital he met another English lad who was working on a farm that was being sold up because of the drought. Then the rain had come and they found that with the new grass they needed another milker. He went to the farm, but apart from the milking there was very little to do there.

When the farm was finally sold up and the job was completed they were paid off and came down to Sydney on the Express about 8-10 August. They had 10 pound each and stopped at the People's Palace. They arrived on a Wednesday and on the Friday they went to see the sights. In Martin Place, the shipping and business area, they saw a notice advising that the S.S. Ulimaroa would leave the next day at noon for Wellington, New Zealand. It cost him 6 pound 10 shillings to travel steerage.

He lived at Salvation Army's Hostel, in Wellington, WTN, NZ, about 15 August 1927. (It only cost him ?2/10/- a week but eventually his money ran out and he went to the Labour Exchange. There were no jobs available. He walked out but was called back and asked, "Can you milk cows? Can you fence? An inquiry has just come in." He was advised to go out to Mr Charlie Thomas' farm at Mirimar. It would only cost him sixpence for the six sections and the tram would pass the farm. He replied that he would walk as he had no money but the man lent him sixpence.).

He lived at at the Salvation Army Hostel, in Wellington, WTN, NZ, in July 1928. (As he had been paid before he left the Pinnacles, he decided to have a holiday before starting working again). He lived in Dellow's Bluff, Murchison, NLN, NZ, about August 1929. He lived in Murchison, NLN, NZ, before 31 August 1932.

He married Minnie Clare Gibson, daughter of Ebenezer Gurchen Gibson and Eliza Payton, on 31 August 1932 Methodist service at residence of E G Gibson at Maruia South, NLN, NZ. (Jim had been told that permanent jobs were now available for married men so that perhaps sped up their marriage..). James Payne and Minnie Clare Payne lived at at the bottom on the Murchison side, in Hope Saddle, NLN, NZ, in May 1934. (They along with six other PWD families, some of whom had up to three children, were living in tents there.). James Payne and Minnie Clare Payne and Betty Margaret Payne lived in Sandy Creek, near Glenhope, NLN, NZ, on 2 May 1936. James Payne and Minnie Clare Gibson and Betty Margaret Payne lived in Grassie, near Owen Junction, NLN, NZ, about 1937. James Payne and Minnie Clare Payne and Betty Margaret Payne and James Robert Payne lived at "Seaview", in Port Nelson, NLN, NZ, in August 1943. (The family shifted to Nelson partly because of petrol rationing and partly because Minnie was determined that her children should attend the colleges in Nelson. As Jim had his PWD shotfirer's ticket he found it easy to get a transfer to Nelson. The family first stayed at "Seaview" a boarding house at the port where the Coglan family from Murchison were also living.). James Payne and Minnie Clare Payne and Betty Margaret Payne and James Robert Payne lived at 27 Van Diemen Street, in Nelson, NLN, NZ, about October 1943. (Money was very tight and on occasions Minnie had to decide whether to come home on the bus from town or to use this money (4d) to buy a loaf of bread. They had boarders, and Jim worked at the weekends to pay off the house. Even so during this time the family had picnics up the Maitai River and down at Tahuna Beach.). James Payne and Minnie Clare Payne and Betty Margaret Payne and James Robert Payne lived at 34 Tipahi Street, in Nelson, NLN, NZ, about November 1949. James Payne and Minnie Clare Payne and James Robert Payne lived at 34 Tipahi Street, in Nelson, NLN, NZ, in 1960. James Payne and Minnie Clare Payne lived at 34 Tipahi Street, in Nelson, NLN, NZ, before 5 September 1983. James Payne lived at 34 Tipahi Street, in Nelson, NLN, NZ, on 5 September 1983. He became a widower at age 74 upon the death of his wife Minnie Clare Gibson on 5 September 1983. James Payne lived at 34 Tipahi Street, in Nelson, NLN, NZ, before October 1990. He died on 24 October 1990 Nelson Public Hospital at Nelson, NLN, NZ, at age 82. (After loosing weight for some short time cancer was finally diagonized and Jim died approximately four weeks later. The surgeon, Mr Emmanuel, who told him that he had cancer was the son of Dr Emmanuel who had advised him to leave the PWD because of the danger of cancer.). 
ContributorsCreated : 2008-07-31 15:21:40 / From original database

Last Updated : 2009-01-31 15:56:33 /

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