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Record #27652
Name :
: Harry SCALES (1903 - )
  aka : Harry MUNNS


Father
: see notes below
Mother
: Annie Scales
BMD and other details
Date of Birth
: 17 Nov 1903   Notes : GRO birth registered 1st Qtr 1904 no father listed

Marriage (1)
:
Marriage (2)
:   Spouse/Notes : see notes in place of death / burial

Date of Death
:
Abode (1) : Place of BirthEngland, Middlesex, Edmonton, Enfield

4 Boundary Cottages, Enfield
Abode (2) : Place of Death / BurialCanada

possible death: 1981 death Harry Sydney Scales – find-a-grave – Glenelg Cemetery, Grey County – Harry Sydney Scales 1903 – 1981 and wife Sadie M Davis
Sailing Information
Date of Arrival
: 3 Jul 1914   Notes : ship left Liverpool 26 June 1914
Country
: Canada

Ship
: Empress of Britain

Placement Family
: placed in Kemble, Grey Co -no name given
Homes / Agencys
Institution (GB)
: Edmonton Union Workhouse

Agency
: Salvation Army
NotesScales / Munns Family Summary – four children emigrated as BHC – Charles, Ellen (Nellie), Elizabeth (Lizzie) and Harry
The children are listed under both surnames in various records

1881 Census - 2 Boundary Cottages, Enfield – George Munns age 30 (farm labourer) with wife Elizabeth age 41 (Crape Worker) and daughter Florence age 1

1888 Nov 12 birth James Scales 21 Stanley Street, Ponders End, Enfield, Edmonton, Middlesex - mother Annie, agricultural labourer – registered GRO Dec Qtr Edmonton - no father listed

1891 Census – 5 Boundary Cottages, Enfield – George Munns age 39 – widower (farm labourer) with children Florence age 10, George age 8
1891 Census – Chase Farm School, Enfield, Edmonton – James Scales age 3
1891 April 05 census Annie Scales (single) and daughter Lilian May in Edmonton Workhouse

1901 Census – 4 Boundary Cottages, Ponders End, Enfield – all people in household were born at this location: George Munns age 45 (farm labourer), Annie Munns age 38, George age 18, James age 13, Lily age 11, Ada age 7, Lizzie age 4 and Ellen age 1.

1910 July 15 – medical performed 4 Torres Street Hackney on children going to the Annie MacPherson House of Industry, 29 Bethnall Green East – Ellen, Elizabeth and Charles Scales
1910 July 22 – ship “Virginian” left Liverpool – list of immigrant children from the Annie MacPherson House of Industry, 29 Bethnall Green East going to 51 Avon Street, Stratford, Ontario include Charles, Elizabeth and Ellen Scales.
1910 July 29 – ship “Virginian” arrives Quebec

1911 census (I have added their birth information to the census information)
St. James Terrace, Enfield *note that Annie Scales reports children that have already emigrated to Canada and one child that has died (she reports Freddy and then crosses out his name and information). She also lists herself as single and crosses it out and puts widow.
In the household are:
b 1871 Annie age 40 single/widow b Edmonton Workhouse – says had 10 children and 9 are living
b 1888 Lily age 22 single Farm Hand b Edmonton Workhouse GRO 4th Qtr 1888 no father listed
b 1893 Freddy b Goat Lane, Ponders End age 17 single *notation in “children who have died” column GRO 3rd Qtr 1893 d 3rd Qtr 1893 no father listed
b 1895 Ada age 16 b Ponders End single Factory Hand b Ponders End GRO 1st Qtr 1895 no father listed
b 1897 Lizzie age 14 b Boundary Cottages, Ponders End MacPherson record 11 Sept 1897 GRO Reference: 1896 4th Qtr in Edmonton – Elizabeth Munns fa: Munns ma: Scales
b 1899 Nelly age 12 b Boundary Cottages, Ponders End GRO 05 June 1899 4 Boundary Cottages – mother Annie, agricultural worker - registered 3rd Qtr 1899 no father listed - MacPherson record 05 July 1899
b 1901 Charlie age 10 b Boundary Cottages, Ponders End GRO 07 Sept 1901 4 Boundary Cottages – mother Annie, agricultural worker registered 4th Qtr 1901 no father listed - MacPherson record 06 February 1901
b 1903 Harry age 7 b Boundary Cottages, Ponders End GRO 17 November 1903 4 Boundary Cottages – mother Annie, agricultural worker registered 1st Qtr 1904 no father listed - Salvation Army record 17 November 1903
b 1907 Arthur age b Picketts Lane, Edmonton 4 GRO 3rd Qtr 1907 no father listed
b 1909 Florrie age 2 b Bricky Lane, Enfield GRO 1st Qtr 1909 no father listed
b 1910 May age 9 months b Vine Cottages, Enfield GRO 3rd Qtr 1910 no father listed

1911 census Chase Farm Schools, Edmonton – Harry Scales *Note on file *alias Munns age 8 born Edmonton

1911 census Sutherland Road, Lower Edmonton, Middlesex – George Munns living with his daughter Florence Rich nee Munns / Scales and her family

1911 census Egremont, Grey South, Ontario – Charles Scales age 10 (domestic) living with Wm Ecoles
1911 census Dunneville, Ontario – Elizabeth Scales (domestic) age 14 living with Fry family
1911 census Wilmott, Ontario – Ellen Scales age 10 (servant) living with Walker family


Harry Scales
1914 June 26 Medical performed for Salvation Army on Harry Scales at the Edmonton Union Workhouse, Middlesex
1914 June 26 – ship “Empress of Britain” leaves Liverpool with group of Salvation Army children – Harry Scales age 10
1914 July 03 – arrived Quebec on the “Empress of Britain” going to 105 Indian Road, Toronto with the Salvation Army

According to Salvation Army and Boards of Guardians records:
1915 August Harry Scales had 6 inspections staring from his placement
1916 September Kemble, Grey County
1917 September Kemble, Grey County
1918 May Kemble, Grey County
1919 December not seen – away from Home
1920 August Kemble, Grey County
1920 October L. Bowles, RR#2 Bradford, Simcoe
1921 inspections complete
1922 June Russell Perkins, Hampton, Durham
1923 May Russell Perkins, Hampton Durham
Note: a reliable worker and takes an interest in his work

Census 1921
1921 Census Harry Scales age 18 b England, labourer living with Bowles family at Bradford, West Gwillimbury

Other Information:

1925 Harry and Charles Scales border crossing
1925 November 24 Border Crossing – Canada to USA
Harry and Charles Scales are travelling together – they are going to Buffalo to visit their sister “Lizzie Burns”
Harry gives his age as 20, living in Durham, Ontario - birth place: Middlesex, England – arrived at Quebec, Canada on the “Empress of Britain” in July 1914 – he is accompanied by his brother Charles
Charles gives his age as 22, living in Holstein, Ontario – birth place: Enfield, England – arrived at “unknown” Canada on the “Virginian” in 1913 – he is accompanied by his brother Harry

Possible wife and death
1981 death Harry Sydney Scales – find-a-grave – Glenelg Cemetery, Grey County – Harry Sydney Scales 1903 – 1981 and wife Sadie M Davis 
ContributorsCreated : 2017-12-22 17:17:05 / janismccahill

Additional Contributions from : 1Millin

Last Updated : 2022-01-09 22:29:34 / janismccahill

Family History ResearchersRootsChatters with family connections to Harry SCALES:

1Millin

 
Readers Comments09.01.22 1Millin :
Ellen Scales came to the Wilker family not Walker.
William Conrad Wilker and his wife Emma Maria Diehl

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IDNameDOBPlace of birthArrivals & ShipsDest.AgencyFamily links
5237 ANKER, Kenneth1915ENG, LND, Enfield Mar 1930 : Scythia CAN Salvation Army  
13296 ANKER, Sidney Gerald1911ENG, LND, Enfield Feb 1928 : Montclare CAN Salvation Army  
5823 ARCHIBALD, Dorothy1900ENG,    , Enfield May 1905 : Bavarian CAN MacPherson Homes  
10206 ARCHIBALD, Nellie 1892ENG,    , Enfield May 1905 : Bavarian CAN MacPherson Homes  
27662 EDWARDS, Harry1903ENG, MDX, London, Enfield Jul 1914 : Empress of Britain CAN Salvation Army  
27661 EDWARDS, William1905ENG, MDX, London, Enfield Jul 1914 : Empress of Britain CAN Salvation Army  
15469 MOODY, John1902ENG, MDX, Enfield Jun 1913 : Corsican CAN Catholic Emigration Society  
6408 SCALES, Charles1901ENG, MDX, Edmonton, Enfield Jul 1910 : Virginian CAN Louisa Birt  
27654 SCALES, Elizabeth1896ENG, MDX, Edmonton, Enfield Jul 1910 : Virginian CAN Annie MacPherson  
27653 SCALES, Ellen1899ENG, MDX, Edmonton, Enfield Jul 1910 : Virginian CAN Annie MacPherson 1Millin  
27652 SCALES, Harry1903ENG, MDX, Edmonton, Enfield Jul 1914 : Empress of Britain CAN Salvation Army 1Millin  
27660 SMITH, Walter Allen1902ENG, MDX, Edmonton, Enfield Jul 1914 : Empress of Britain CAN Salvation Army pwhhh  
3280 TURRELL, James1885ENG, MDX, Enfield Oct 1900 : Tunisian CAN Barnardos